on Lgbt - where's the love
Q:Why is there so much debate online and in the church as a whole about lgbt? There are so many sins that are committed by all of us, but everyone is loving and kind about it until said sin is homosexuality (not even homosexual behavior but just having those thoughts). No sin is greater than any other sin, so why is this one targeted so heavily? If there wasn’t so much debate over it, it wouldn’t be an issue.
If we are willing to forgive adulterers, if we are willing to forgive thieves, if we are willing to forgive blasphemers, and ready to tell them such, why is it any different for lgbtq people? Luke 17:3 Rebuke, and forgive. Do not condemn. No sin is big enough to separate you from God. He sent Jesus to the world to make that possible.
Just like with heterosexual attraction, there is a difference between attraction and lust. If the thought of attraction was no different than the sin of lust, romance and marriage would not be in God’s plan.
The only reason lgbtq is so debated right now is because of the media. Do not let the media dictate your views. Open your Bibles. Ephesians 4:32- be kind and compassionate to one another, forgiving one another, just as God also forgave you in Christ. Psalm 103:13- as a father has compassion on his children, so the Lord has compassion on those who fear Him. Romans 5:8- but God proves His own love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.
This is not to say we encourage the behavior. Homosexuality is temptation. Acting on it is when it becomes sin. Our job as Christians is to guide our fellow believers down the right path, *kindly*. It is not our place to judge or demean. We all have our own issues to work through. Let’s hold each other up, and hold each other accountable, regardless of what we may be struggling with.
A: Lgbt homosexuality is a lifestyle choice not a temptation.
On the thoughts...
When we entertain the thoughts it is sin. Someone tempting you is not. So say a gay girl texts and says shes interested in dating you but you have no interest. That was a temptation. A testing of your faith and obedience. If you entertain the idea of it even for a secind or minute...then you sinned since you went against the design of God's for human relationships.
The reason it is a big problem right now is the sex cult agenda is pushed on tv, in movies, in cartoons, in "family" shows, in music, in commercias, on food packages, by advertisers, in schools, at jobs, in laws, they created an entire industry around it, and slander and cancel those who oppose it... and all of this exploded in 2013/2015. Perversion ran rampant and it is demonic deception brainwashing teens and kids to think it is normal or love. But love doesnt do wrong. Love comes from God. We know love because God loved us and because we can live righteously as believers. To claim something is normal or love and then force it on everyone, even by pushing pronouns and coherersing people to obey their beliefs is not love and it violates religious beliefs, free speech, conscience and damages families, and future generations (by preventing babies being born or staying single for life). It destroys entire nations. It is a sin that is committed against a persons own body as well. It is one that if you keep living in it God gives you over to it and wipes his hands of you.
Lgbt attraction is very diff from heterosexual. One is in God's design to be attracted to the opposite sex the other is perversion rebellion against His design. Having any sexual thoughts or actions outside 1M:1W is sin. You cannot try to spin it to avoid accountability or to affirm a sin.... and it is very dangerous to approve of sin or give appearance to it if you claim to be Christian.
So education about this entire topic for believers is vital, so we do not fall prey to Satan's schemes.
And it is important for believers to speak up about it because it is moral perversion.
Churches cannot have gay or lgbt preachers nor gay or lgbt members. No such thing is allowed in true Christian churches. Only false churches embrace that and falsely teach pro lgbt which deceives and also brainwashes kids who are born into or adopted into families who attend one.
We need to speak truth, counsel and correct those who claim to be Christian who embraced it and help people out of it. It needs church discipline to educate, correct and restore one to a right relationship with God.
If we dont talk about it and answer questions then no one ever examines themselves, removes sin and gets right with God. If we love others we are not to let them walk in the counsel of the wicked nor walk in the world if they claim to be Christian.
Not sure why you are confused. You said it yourself, rebuke and forgive. They need to be educated rightly on the issue, repent and be made right with God. There's no coming condemnation for those in Christ. Jesus and even John the Baptist had harsh words to the wicked ones pretending to be of God but were of Satan. And said if they are if God, live like it. Their life would naturally align with God's will and Word. But false converts abound and are everywhere so we warn them and call them and unbelievers to repent.
Scripture tells us we are to be righteous judges and that is why we are to admonish, exhort, rebuke and educate people who claim to be Christian. It is also a reason Church discipline exists. See Matt 18. We are to be holy people and those not living right make Christ look bad so they need correction.
It isnt that "if the media stops talking about it that it all goes away". The sex cult has invaded schools, education systems, entertainment, jobs and laws and that's all noted above.
It is unloving to not educate, counsel and warn people about it just like we do any false religion and any sin. Some sins are very clear others people slowly get sucked into them. And it is usually by those not reading the Bible and living holy lives who claim to be Christian. Just cuz they claim that or go to church doesnt mean theyre actually born again, by God.
Our identity is in Christ not in our sexuality. We live in truth, sanity and Christ, not deception like those the world.
No Christian would mistreat not be loving, kind or embracingly welcome a person who has turned from and conqured a sin - even lgbt+.
Here is a compassionate loving kind conversation with a lgbt person to reach them for the gospel. It even shows how we interact with the lost.
Understanding the lgbt issue of today.
God bless
Verses:
"He who justifies the wicked and he who condemns the righteous, Both of them alike are an abomination to the Lord."
Proverbs 17:15
Romans 1:24-32.
24 Therefore GOD GAVE THEM OVER TO their hearts to impurity, so that their bodies would be dishonored among them. 25 For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen. 26 For this reason GOD GAVE THEM OVER TO their degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is [unnatural, 27 and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.
28 And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, GOD GAVE THEM OVER TO a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper, 29 being filled with all unrighteousness, wickedness, greed, evil; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, malice; theyre gossips, 30 slanderers, haters of God, insolent, arrogant, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, 31 without understanding, untrustworthy, unloving, unmerciful; 32 and although they know the ordinance of God, that those who practice such things are worthy of death, they not only do the same, but also give hearty approval to those who practice them.
Matthew 7:22-23
Speaking of Judgment Day, Jesus said, "On that day many will say to me, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name cast out demons and perform many miracles?' And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from me, you evildoers!'"
The parables point to true and false converts...you know them by their fruit.
If their lives are a lifestyle that is living in sin such as the lgbt lifestyle then they are not of God's people. They're living a rebellious lifestyle. They need to get saved and live righteously.
We need to warn and educate people esp those who claim to be Christian.
Also there are 2 sins greater than any others and both damn people eternally.
* Dying in your sins
* Blaspheming the Holy Spirit
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